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How long do I wait before reporting you missing this time?

Amanda Bailey

Call me in an hour. But you won’t have to wait that long. No one will meet me here. Least of all a Mr Clive Badham. But she’s watching me. Right now.

Ellie Cooper

She? Who?

Amanda Bailey

Holly.

Ellie Cooper

The second Holly? The Alperton Angels Holly? Lady Georgina?

Amanda Bailey

Yes. Well, if my hunch is correct. I hope so. I hope it’s her and that she can see me.

Amanda Bailey

Wait, who’s this?

Ellie Cooper

OK, so she’s arrived? I’ll give you an hour from now and call you.

Amanda Bailey

Shit shit shit! It’s Clive Badham. Wannabe script writer. Hasn’t stopped talking about Divine since he arrived. He has mood boards and lists. Lists of special effects, locations, props. Nutritionally balanced menus for the crew. A statement on the diversity he wants to see ‘in front of and behind the camera’. Don’t even start on the list of actors. Tom Cruise is on it and he’s not even at the top!

Ellie Cooper

No! OMG, Mand, that’s so funny!

Amanda Bailey

I’m in the toilet but there’s no window or other means of escape. I can’t talk any more about ‘Jay Horror’. I’ve no idea who she is. How can I get away from this excruciating little man?

Ellie Cooper

Go back to the table, I’ll call and say there’s an emergency in the office. Put me on speaker. I’ll sound tearful, the works.

Amanda Bailey

Thanks, Els. Call in five. Fuck my false hunches. Never listening to them again, they are liars!

Ellie Cooper

And J-horror is a particular style of Japanese horror film

Meeting with Clive Badham in Café Z in Stoke Newington, 27 August 2021. Transcribed by Ellie Cooper.

[OMG, Mand! I see what you mean. I’ll cut out everything he says apart from the bits about how and why he wrote what he wrote in the script. That’s most of it. For the record, I agree with him about the original versions ofThe Ring, The GrudgeandDark Waterbeing much better than the remakes. EC]

AB:But what made you choose that name in particular? Ashleigh.